John McCain -- Pro Life? What a joke!
John A. Quayle
blueoval57 at VERIZON.NET
Tue Aug 26 07:34:53 MDT 2008
Steven Laib wrote:
> Baldwin is forgetting several key facts. First, for Roe to be fully
> overturned there has to be a cased filed raising the issues central to
> Roe. Second, the case has to make its way through the federal courts
> and be appealed to SCOTUS, after which the court has to agree to hear
> it. Then, we have to consider that Justice Kennedy is a loose cannon.
/*You are quite correct, Steve. If memory serves, Kennedy
brought up international law when adjudicating a prior case, correct?*/
> Consider what he did in the Gitmo prisoners rights cases.
> Then, considering if the Supreme Court were to overturn Roe, the
> proper domain for the issue of legal abortion was and remains the
> states under the 10th amendment. Thus, you can expect that at least
> some of the states are going to keep it legal.
/*Steve, far as I'm concerned, this is (or should be) a
states' rights issue all the way. Therefore, if the denizens of a
certain state wish to keep or reject it, they can simply lobby their
state lawmakers (or vote them out, if need be).
> Baldwin is eloquent and passionate, but he misses things.
> Steve L.
> At 11:46 PM 8/25/2008, you wrote:
>> John McCain Pro Life? What a Joke!
>> by Chuck
>> August 22, 2008
>> Once again, "pro-life" Christians are doing back flips to try and
>> justify their compromise of the life issue by trying to convince
>> everyone (including themselves) that John McCain is truly pro-life.
>> However, these same people know in their hearts that John McCain
>> shares no fidelity to the life issue in any significant or meaningful
>> way. Like many in the Republican Party, McCain's commitment to life
>> is about as deep as a mud puddle.
>> Dare I remind everyone that the "pro-life" GOP controlled the entire
>> federal government from 2000 to 2006 and nothing was done to overturn
>> Roe v. Wade or end legal abortion-on-demand? When George W. Bush took
>> the oath of office in January of 2001, over one million innocent
>> unborn babies were being murdered in the wombs of their mothers every
>> year via legal abortions in this country. And when George W. Bush
>> leaves office in January of 2009, over one million innocent unborn
>> babies would still be murdered in the wombs of their mothers every
>> year via legal abortions in this country. Eight years of a "pro-life"
>> President and six years of the "pro-life" GOP in charge of the entire
>> federal government and not one unborn baby's life has been saved. Roe
>> v. Wade is still the law of the land, and abortion-on-demand is still
>> legal in America.
>> Had John McCain and his fellow Republicans truly wanted to end legal
>> abortion, they could have passed Congressman Ron Paul's Sanctity of
>> Life Act. Year after year, Dr. Paul introduced this bill, and year
>> after year, it sat and collected dust in the document room on Capitol
>> What would Congressman Paul's bill do? It would do two things: 1) It
>> would define life as beginning at conception and, thus, declare the
>> personhood of every pre-born child. 2) Under Article. III. Section.
>> 2. of the U.S. Constitution, it would remove abortion from the
>> jurisdiction of the Court. In practical terms, Dr. Paul's bill would
>> overturn Roe v. Wade and end legal abortion-on-demand. So, where was
>> John McCain? Why did he not support Ron Paul's bill and introduce a
>> companion bill in the U.S. Senate?
>> How can John McCain, and his fellow Republicans in Washington, D.C.,
>> look pro-life Christians and conservatives in the eye in 2008 and
>> expect that we take them seriously when they say that they are
>> "pro-life"? If the GOP had truly wanted to overturn Roe v. Wade and
>> end legal abortion-on-demand, they could have already done it. They
>> controlled the White House, the U.S. Senate, and the House of
>> Representatives for six long years, for goodness sake. The reason
>> they did not do it is because they did not want to do it. They merely
>> want to use "pro-life" rhetoric as a campaign tool to dupe gullible
>> Christian voters every election year. And the disgusting thing about
>> it is--it works.
>> The vast majority of notable "pro-life" leaders in the country are
>> now trumpeting the candidacy of John McCain. And the best challenge
>> they can come up with is "McCain better not pick a 'pro-choice' Vice
>> President." Oh, shut up (to quote Jay Leno)!
>> John McCain openly embraces embryonic stem cell research. In 2000,
>> he boldly said he did not favor the overturn of Roe v. Wade. John
>> McCain was a member of the infamous "Gang of 14" senators from both
>> parties whose purpose was to oppose pro-life, strict constructionist
>> Speaking of judges, John McCain voted for the pro-abortion justice,
>> Stephen Breyer, and the radical, pro-abortion, ACLU attorney, Ruth
>> Bader Ginsburg. So much for the argument that we need John McCain for
>> the sake of appointing conservative justices to the Supreme Court.
>> For that matter, Republican appointments dominated the Court that
>> gave us Roe v. Wade and the one that later gave us Doe v. Bolton.
>> Proving, once again, that the Republican Party, as a whole, has no
>> real commitment to the life issue.
>> John McCain also gave us McCain-Feingold. This is the law that keeps
>> pro-life or pro-Second Amendment organizations from broadcasting ads
>> that mention a candidate by name 30 days before a primary election or
>> 60 days before a general election. This proves that John McCain
>> believes neither in the right to life nor the right to keep and bear
>> arms. (This is one reason why the Gun Owners of America gives McCain
>> a grade of F.)
>> In a debate with George W. Bush in May of 2000, John McCain attacked
>> Bush's support for the pro-life plank in the Republican Party. Still
>> today, John McCain believes that babies who are conceived via rape or
>> incest should be murdered. I remind readers, however, that there are
>> no "exceptions" in the womb, only babies.
>> If all of the above is not enough, as a senator, John McCain has
>> repeatedly voted to fund pro-abortion providers such as Planned
>> Parenthood with federal tax dollars. In fact, McCain has voted to use
>> federal tax dollars to support abortion providers at home and
>> overseas. Yes, this "pro-life" senator (along with "pro-life"
>> President, George W. Bush) has significantly increased federal
>> spending for abortion providers to levels eclipsing even the
>> appropriations authorized by President Bill Clinton and his fellow
>> John McCain also supports the United Nations, which not only works to
>> strip the United States of its independence and sovereignty, and
>> banish our right to keep and bear arms, but is also the most radical,
>> pro-abortion organization in the entire world. More babies have been
>> aborted around the world under the auspices of the U.N. than any
>> other single entity.
>> Tell me again, Mr. Christian Leader, how "pro-life" John McCain is.
>> What a joke!
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